thanks guys, i really appreciate the positive comments. I shot that elk with a 150gr federal rn sp. I got my gun the day before i left. HOAL sent me the gun. I really wish i woulda had more time 2 try a buncha different shells. I had to go with what the dealer had because i didnt have time to go check around.They preformed well. I recently used them on a whitetail doe though and I would not recomend them on deer. The dont expand quite enuff 2 my liking