just to show you the shot i had if you look in the top photo you can see the entrace hole in this photo you can easily see the exit hole. i was using a muzzy 3 blade 100 grain and boy did it do the trick it was a complete pass and the arrow was in the ground at leaset 4 inches behind it.

also there is a post on here somewhere about making homemade lumenock's for like 4 dollars each i made one earlier in the day and actually got to shoot this deer with an arrow equipped with it, it worked extremely well i saw the arrow very easily throughout the entire flight and then stuck in the ground untill i got there. i highly recamend them for low light hunting it makes the job alot easier to see your shot placement, after the shot.