Well I am still guilty of not owning a chronograph... Maybe I am worried that once I get one, I would become too concerned with it and the readings. Then again, I do have that on my wish list for those who do not understand the kind of toys people like me want as gifts....

Pittsburghunter I was impressed with the powder. I want to try it out of a couple different rifles, including my White. Also I was told that 100 grains (in a PM) is a very strong load. The Knight Disc is such a recoil forgiving rifle, I hardly noticed.

I was hoping some of the Black Mag3 shooters on this forum would join in here and give me their secret loads for their rifles. I was told that 90 grains is plenty. I was going to push them up to 120, but the 20% think kind of worried me.