35yds on a clear open no wind shot on a NON-ALERT calm deer not looking my direction with NO buck fever or shakes. but i KNOW from target shooting ill break my own arrows that far all day long. i practiced long and hard to shoot groups at 35yds...if conditions are absolutely right ill take it if i know it will be my only shot. you gota learn yourself and your equiptment. just because i can shoot 35 doesnt mean you cant shoot at 45..or that you CAN shoot 35...but i wont do it unless conditions are like shooting a 3d target..which in the woods hardly ever happen. i usually setup in woods to thick to shoot that far anyways.