i do what mass does...and i dont spit or anything...and i dont brush my teeth or use deoderant at all days i hunt!..i think deer associate them smells with human these days...i also shower without soap too when im not grossly dirty..i would use all the soaps and junk but i dotn have faith in them..i dont care how many people say they work im just not a believer...i play the wind and dont smell like a pretty boy when im in the woods! i do put on deo and brush my teeth after the hunt...