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12-02-2002 | 01:18 AM

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BOWFANATIC

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From: Wisconsin

RE: Trophy Hunting?

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This is the problem with you. It has been proven over and over that the "old" way of thinking was incorrect, so how could the opposite be right in reversing the original if the original wasn't correct to begin with??

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>BTW , theres a huge difference between herd management and eradication. Try again!<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote> No....There is no difference. It is still a reduction in numbers we are talking about, whether it is diseased or not. If you want to reduce the total herd numbers, you kill them all. If you want to balance out the herd and make it more healthy, you cull out alot of does.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I find it hard to believe that in Missouri your DNR hasn't stated somewhere , somehow , that they need to reduce the herd size. There are enough Wi folks around here who can vouge for the fact that the WIDNR is open about the T-Zone hunts (doe only) and the need to reduce our deer herd. It's common sense for Christs sake , do you have to see it in the hunting regs before you believe it?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Well...Step up to the plate and lets do it.

Let's also do this.....

Say you are right,(which I still do not agree with) and the reason is for reducing herd size.

So, if we need to harvest many does, this must mean that the bucks are in dire need of assistance to even out the herd. This is done with the letting of small, young bucks pass and the harvest of more does.

There is absolutely no way you can argue that fact...period.

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Heres an article from the WiDNR website for you.

With the state herd continuing to hover around 1.6 million animals, hunters can expect extra hunting opportunities again in 2002. The high deer population kicked off another year of special herd control seasons, with 41 (four units have been removed from the Zone T framework and are now governed by CWD regulations) Deer Management Units (DMU's) requiring Zone T status. Zone T are special antlerless only hunts held is DMU’s where it is projected that the traditional deer season framework would not reduce the deer population to within 20% of that unit’s over wintering population goal. Some of this year's Zone T DMU's will have been in that category for their second or third year. To minimize conflicts with winter recreation in the northern part of the state, Zone T DMU’s north of Hwy. 8 will not participate in the December Zone T season. Hunters should check the 2002 DMU Map to see which units are designated for Zone T in 2002. In addition to Zone T, many DMU’s will have bonus antlerless permits available for hunters who wish to harvest additional antlerless deer.

Kinda covers what I said all along in the first couple sentences , doesn't it? All the extra doe harvest opportunities are aimed at reducing the herd! If you wish to argue the difference between herd reduction and herd eradication , send Nub an email , he'll be happy to fill you in on the difference , he's from the eradication zone.

Whats with the buzzer and rolling over comment?? Still trying to make me look stupid?<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> It's getting old!<img src=icon_smile_sleepy.gif border=0 align=middle>

Richie , "the old way of thinking" (very limited doe harvests) was designed to increase the deer herd...period! Do you argue this fact? The only oooops they made was allowing the limited doe harvest to go on for too long until they realized that now their faced with too big of a deer herd. Any Wisconsin hunter who hunted in the 60's , 70's or before can verify this.
As far as areas that are faced with a buck to doe ratio that is out of whack , I would encourage hunters to shoot as many doe as posible , but I sure wouldn't bat an eye at them for shooting young bucks as well. Most of this nation is faced with over population of whitetail deer.
Back to the QDM. If a hunter does his part at bringing the buck to doe ratio closer by culling does , shooting a young buck does absolutely nothing to damage the health of the herd...period! You cant argue that fact! Your arguement there is based on your trophy mentality!

Edited by - bowfanatic on 12/02/2002 02:25:11

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