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12-01-2002 | 08:57 PM

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RICHIE3

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From: saint joseph missouri USA

RE: Trophy Hunting?

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Richie , Richie , Richie

Your attempt at making me look like the foolish one is back firing!<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>No sir, you are doing just fine on your own.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>How long have you been around??<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote> I guess I have been around long enough to know when some one is full of it, and get away. Nice meeting ya.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>When I started deerhunting we had what we called a party permit. A group of hunters could apply for a single doe tag and if lucky enough to recieve one , one hunter wore the doe tag on his arm and that group of hunters could shoot one doe. After that , they changed to a antlerless permit for individual hunters that was obtained thru lottery. You see , all this protection of the female species was to increase the entire deer herd. Wisconsin isn't the only state that went thru this. So , wouldn't you say it would be the same logic applied to decreasing the deer herd (shooting the female species)???<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote> This is the problem with you. It has been proven over and over that the "old" way of thinking was incorrect, so how could the opposite be right in reversing the original if the original wasn't correct to begin with??
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>BTW , theres a huge difference between herd management and eradication. Try again!<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote> No....There is no difference. It is still a reduction in numbers we are talking about, whether it is diseased or not. If you want to reduce the total herd numbers, you kill them all. If you want to balance out the herd and make it more healthy, you cull out alot of does.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>You full blown trophy hunters are all alike!<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> You base your arguements on QDM and the health of the herd , buts it's all about the big racks and nothing else! Your statements have already proven your hypocracy in this arguement.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote> Yes.....I could not get a more expert opinion on hypocrisy than the one from you. And you still have not answered the question.

Why is it necessary for an experienced hunter to harvest young, small bucks, that haven't reached maturity??

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Maintaining a even buck to doe ratio is what QDM is all about , so dont go preaching QDM and in the other cheek spout off about how you'll question any experienced hunter for shooting a young buck , even after doing his part at maintaining an even buck to doe ratio!<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Wow...I have been stating this about QDM from the start, and now all of the sudden, your are telling me what it is all about. Gee Thanks!!

ooops! what was that?? oh...it is the buzzer going off.......time for you to turn over again....

And yes!!! Once again, I will question a experienced hunter for taking a small buck, even if he/she has taken a couple of does already!! This is NOT the correct way to practice QDM. But, if you choose to do this, it is a step in the right direction. I would be semi-proud of you!!

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>That has got to be the most pathetic paragraph I've read in this whole debate!
As for the experienced hunter who spends alot of time and money on hunting and hunts in a remote area where a deer sighting is rare , your still gonna question his choice on shooting a small buck?? Oh , unless he needs the meat.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote> You damn right I would for the sake of this arguement.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I find it hard to believe that in Missouri your DNR hasn't stated somewhere , somehow , that they need to reduce the herd size. There are enough Wi folks around here who can vouge for the fact that the WIDNR is open about the T-Zone hunts (doe only) and the need to reduce our deer herd. It's common sense for Christs sake , do you have to see it in the hunting regs before you believe it?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Well...Step up to the plate and lets do it.

Let's also do this.....

Say you are right,(which I still do not agree with) and the reason is for reducing herd size.

States are allowing the harvest of many does. We, for the sake of arguement, agree on this.

How did it get this unbalance get this way to begin with?? If does were protected years ago from being taken out of the herd, what was it then that was taken??? Bucks is your answer whether you believe it or not. Then the herd exploded from the lack of competition between bucks for the right to breed the does.

So, if we need to harvest many does, this must mean that the bucks are in dire need of assistance to even out the herd. This is done with the letting of small, young bucks pass and the harvest of more does.

There is absolutely no way you can argue that fact...period.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>For those areas that have too many does ;
I'm still waiting for a logical explanation to why it would be wrong for an experienced hunter to harvest a young buck as long as he harvested a couple does to do his part for the deer herd.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>I just gave you the answer again, up above.

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