I madea statement that should have been offensive to nobody, I'm not making fun of handicapped or less abled folks, but I am making fun of lazy sportsman, camel, do you honesly think getting on a forum and asking complete strangers for help is really going to do any good? and on top of that, trying to sound macho by listing two calibers that might have to much recoil for some people isn't helping either. And camel I think that little stfu comment is uneccesary, I don't know how old you are but making a comment like that makes you sound about 17 years old.