i KNOW im in a good area.....there are large scrapes on trees gettin clobbered, im on a very heavyily beaten trail by a natural water sourceand i found the main bedding site in the thickest stuff i could find, they are there at night but during the day they seem to all be off in the neighborhoods.....we have had tremendous sucess with this spot in the past 30 years my family has been hunting there.....i have hunted 2 other areas and have seen no deer.....its now been 2 weeks since ive been out and im plannin on huntin all day tomorrow (we get out of school at 10:30 so im gonna pop over right avter school and wait it out till dark) and maybe with the cooler weather and the full moon (when is/was that again?) they are back in their usual pattern....i was just wondering if enyone els was havin thie problem.....and if their luck has turned around in the last week or so....