Quote "Ahhhhhhhh..... There it is. If you are that interested for the future of younger generations, why not help presereve it? If people keep going on the path of "shoot everything that moves", there will be no future for the younger generations. Because, that is the way it is going. "

Do you seriously think that shooting lets say 4 deer a year of which 2 can be bucks (Iowa law) will hurt the population of deer?

I started deer hunting at age 12 with a gun, 18 with a bow, and shot anything by for many of those years (still will if I take a fancy to it) and our deer population is much much greater now than when I started. We used to have a draw only system that was buck only, now everyone gets an anysex tag and they are handing out extra doe tags. Doesn't seem to support your debate that it is hurting the younger generation. There are many more big bucks now than ever.

In fact it can be argued that the next generation will be hurt more by the QDM people who do not let others hunt on large pieces of ground because they are worried that someone will shot something too small for thier standards.

What happens to that uncle or father or mother or whoever that wants to take thier child hunting but does not have the ground to hunt on. Public ground? I don't know about you but in Iowa the public ground isn't even safe to be on in gun season. I just got back from Wyoming antelope and mule deer hunting and can say that thier public ground isn't too safe either.

Wouldn't it be great if all the states were under QDM restrictions so that everyone would have to follow someone elses standards. Do you think antler restrictions are great? I would love to see the look on someones face (childs?) when you explain that they can not shoot that deer because someone else thinks it is too small. Maybe a trophy to them, maybe the only deer that they ever shoot? Maybe they get cancer or something happens that does not allow them to hunt anymore and those dang antler restrictions sure did a good job or preserving the quality of deer for someone else while robbing a memory from the next person.

Why is the size of the antlers so important to you? Is this how you grade your hunts?

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You are missing the point, badly. I would be glad to harvest any animal that comes in front of me and know that it doesn't effect the state of hunting for tomorrow. "

I am not missing the point, I in fact understand it very well.
What state of hunting is effected? The trophy hunters standards?

I hope my son and daughter do not get mixed up in all the ads for deer hunting telling them to shoot the big one and you will be happier only to forget about the sheer joy of being out in the woods for just the sake of hunting. The look on my face or thiers when they take an animal in its own habitat. Sit for hours waiting for the right shot so the animal doesn't suffer. The hours of practice and more hours of talking about it that it takes to harvest an animal. The time in the field with friends or the solitude away from work and worldly pressure that is relieved. I hope they enjoy the rights that others have sacraficed to give them. I hope they continue to fight for those rights.

Including the right to choose which animal makes them happier.

I don't think you understand, I think you missed my point, if you must grade your hunts or future hunts by the size of the deer you are missing the point.

For every post on here about someone shooting a big buck you see many posts about the hunters who are thrilled to shoot whatever deer they have shot.

You will not find any answers to the questions you keep asking because you are choose to dismiss any answers that you do not want to hear.

Bowdacious quote " "There is more to a Trophy, than the Size of the Rack"

That is the answer to all your questions.

" Anyone can be a father, but it takes a real man to be a Dad"