Not to choose sides or get into a debate here but i think what Wolfen is saying is: "If you want to up your chances at harvesting a HOLY CRAP deer" you need to hold off on the immature bucks. Shooting the first thing with horns is fine a dandy, but in the same breath you can't say I never see deer like that "HOLY CRAP". Pretty hard to raise the level of the deer heard if they are always stunted to 2-3 year old bucks. Impossible to harvest a trophy with your treestand in the garage, bow in its case and your tag on a 4 pointer. I think that is what he is trying to say, call it what ever type of management that you want. He views this an opportunity to enlighten you on his opinion, standards goals, reasons...he just like Bow did.

I have stated i have no problems with "meat hunters", what ever floats your canoe...however it seems many "meat hunters" have a real problem with "trophy hunters". While are standards & goals may be different our reasons and love of this sport are not....we are all hunters, opinions aside. It isn't fair for me to preach to you about Trophy Hunting, like wise it isn't fair for you to preach to me about "meat hunting". Sure we need to share and enlighter each other on the aspects, perspectives, why we do what we do, etc but that shouldn't be from the top of a soap box or horse with an iron hand. Yeap, I'll admit it goes both ways...but it is opinion and to share is free speach, to preach is well...you get the picture!

My observation of hunter these days, we are far more educated on the effects of managing a herd...wether meat or trophy. To me that points to only better deer herds & quality for all. When I started it was taboo to shoot a doe and a kong to shot any buck...that has changed and I can bet all of you can relate to the positives this a=has produced (wether increased sighting, bag limits, more meat or bigger animals -horn and body weight). This education incompass both QDM and TBM in way or form.

happy hunting and that is my 2 pennies worth.