It's very interesting to read all of the differing opinons on this topic. I kinda knew the subject would cause such a responce. See, like many of you out there, I too can put 9 out of 10 Montec-tipped Easton Axis 400 arrows on a paper plate at 60 yards. But that paper plate does not twitch, flinch or jump. Lots of us have watched deer @ 15 yards duck our arrow. But just to further the debate some more, how fast does the sound of an ultra-quiet, vibration-freebow travel?? Answer: the same speed as a noisy bow: 1,200-something feet per second. And our ultra-hot, brand-spankin'-new bows shoot how fast???? Ahhhh. (I too can't shoot a living animal past 30)