I know exactly what you mean first hand. That is the reason I will no longer hunt on private or state land in NY with a gun again. Because of those idiots spraying slugs all over the place, I got shot in the back with a 12 gauge slug on opening day in Steuben county (Bath) last year in NY state. The idiot that was arrested for it shot 11 times, killing two deer (one looked like swiss cheese according to the game warden and state police) and one of his many "misses" ended up hitting me in the back over a small hill 180 yds away. No one can tell me those new sabot slugs don't travel far. My Rem 11-87 with Hastings barrel can consistently group 3 shots in a 4 inch circle at 200 yds so I know how far they go. All I can tell you guys is to be careful. I did everything right (blaze orange, wasn't wandering around, etc) and it still happened. My friends were telling me it sounded the same this year too. Hunters (if you want to call them that) emptying their 5 shot guns at deer in the hopes of hitting one. These are hunters? I've hunted for over 30 yrs without any incidents and this had to happen to ruin the thing I loved to do most. It gets worse every year. I sure don't know what the answer is and they don't think they're doing anything wrong so I just gave up. Good luck and have a safe, enjoyable season this year everyone!