try being on a PA state game lands this coming monday! slugs dont go 1/4 as far as a 300 mag will..me and my dad were talking to a guy on our way to our setup and he had a pump gun...he was standing there deciding where to go and still was when we left...we go about 50 yds..just out of sight around a bend to hear him dump his magazine and hear the bullets ripping through the sappling thicket...i love listening to them guys on the first morning...i just know more deer live than die and i setup so they make the deer run to me...last year i quit counting at like 65 shots and that was when my dad got a doe at like 8....this year i will try to remember and count..last year we didnt see anyone else dragging out(we have like a mile and half drag) and seen no drag marks or anything...camoe back the end of the week nobody there but us and not much drag marks still! i love the PA war!