thanx mo. i hope we find him...2 things worry me..he went approximatley 300yds ALREADY from my stand and the blood color could be a muscle hit. if i dont find him tomarrow i will feel a little better knowing there wasnt no guts or liver or anything fatal. its either lungs or nothing...i just dont buy that i didnt get SOME part of both or atleast 1 lung from that angle. as you can see its 130am here..still up..dozed off but tossed and turned..finally got a sandwhich down when i woke up and wasnt thinking about it. this sucks....i did my part...my shot was true and dead on...if he hadnt ducked. it would been a smoker shot flying straight for the center of the lungs just above the heart..noone might ever believe me but i know he ducked. all i know is theres a muzzy and a good bit of shaft in him and im going to follow up in the morning....next year ill be shooting a heavier arrow...if i stick with bowhunting. i know it might not help..but my arrow weight is only 370grs or so..60lbs of ke or so..still a good amount to smack a shoulder bone though..we all seen them on 3 legs..if i didnt get lung and infection doesnt set in im sure he will be fine. we will find out what i see tomarrow..