We have it here in P.A. Some of the property I hunt is a 3 point on one side minimum, but some other property that I hunt is 4 point on one side. The crazy thing about it is, the only thing I have to do to change the antler restrictions is cross the road LOL. Thats right, they used a road as the determining factor on what you can shoot. I do agree with this in some aspect, everyone wants to shoot big bucks. I have had the opportunity to kill a few that were a little above average, but not only because of the restrictions, but because I scout. I do however have a problem with the youth thing. I hunted for 5 years without killing a deer and because of this I started to hunt does despite on my early thoughts of "killing does is wrong". Now, I don't care, it's all about the meat. The only thing that I think this rule doing is giving the youth the wrong impression. Hunting isn't all about killing things and if you truely enjoy hunting, the kil doesn't matter. We are obviously all out there to kill a deer but I get some of the most enjoyment out of watching the game not only shooting it.