I went out today and shot ... I had lightfeild and the sst sabots from hornaday.. at 50yds the light feilds were shooting holes on top of each other,, I was pleasently surprise to say the least lol. the sst sabots didnt group as well as the light feilds I guesse my new 870 rem likes lightfeilds,,, I shot them at 100yds and they grouped like 2 inch groups cant complaine lol.... I will Be shooting the Light feilds this year and I hope cabelas keeps carrying them other wise I need to find out who sells them .......???????????????????????????