Ditto On DNK's remarks! It is a misconception that a big bad CB can go out real far like fifty yards with no problem and get it done, but that is false to a certain point. You know as well as I do there are some long bow guys that are pro shooters, and I mean that seriously and can and do take long shots with a vertical bow, seen lots of guys on TV do it with success. I have my bow in a three inch circle at fifty and know that I could hit the boiler room with no problem on a deer at that yardage. But as Dnk said there is alot that can happen in fifty yards that you cannot control. I think I would pass/ turn chicken on a deer past thirty yards, I do it all the time. In fact I like to keep my shots less thantwenty and have enough deer in my area that I can let alot pass and wait for shots like that. Like I said, lessthan thirty, dead deer! Over thirty five/ forty and you open up the door to alot of unknowns and can do bad things to deer that are notnecessary.