I'll let you know in a couple of days. I'm picking up my new H&R .308 tomorrow. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I went with this rifle because of the positive comments from several on this list as well as guys in the shop where I'm buying. One guy I met had something like 16 of them. Since they are so cheap he just buys the whole new gun instead of switching out barrels. Some say that H&R isn't as good of quality as the Thompson. But I couldn't justify the extra $200. From my handling of the H&R it seems tight, well made, and has loads of personality. I can't wait to see the guys in camp when I pull out my new H&R. I'm no expert but I hear that singles are inherently accurate if you do your part. They also offer a bull barrel in the calibers you are considering. Good luck in your decision.