thanx for the recomendation..i was looking at that or the 5500(5519 for the 19pins..) im stuck between them...or vital bow gears "star track" they put 6 FO pins on the slider where the normal yardages are taped off or marked..plus instead of just a pin theres a FO pin...line up the 2 FO dots..put the FO pin on the target and your in business..i think i might go with the vital bow gear..kinda pricey..but i think that would make for an awesome sight thats simple easy to use...i rather have that then a 6 pin sight! 5 pins is too many to me...but i do wanna practice pretty far away next year...i dont know..i like the idea of the vital bow gear though..i stumbled upon that in my search...but HHAs look like they are good quality..