deerman ., i will let you know., last weekend this guy was out hunting down in the swamp., he said he was rattling and a pretty nice 10 pointer came out with his ears back!! and a looking., this was a week ago., so im thinking it will work ., i normaly hit it hard banging around the 20th of oct,. and on., but i really do think it is goin to be a early rut!! ., good luck to you and i will let yo uknow