Perhaps the moderator could delete all the territory markings and leave the original question related posts?

While I don't have the vision, I have a Disc Extreme and I got it instead of the vision for the very reason stated in the review, I like the way the bolt action seats and removes the primer. I 'personaly' would look at what knight now calls simply the 'Knight Extreme' in a left hand model. The bolt removes without tools and the breach is very easy to access and clean. I think it's hard to beat Knights jacketed primer system.