ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
One thing is certain, if we do nothing, their will be no acceptable level.
In 25 years you never saw a deer when you weren't completely scent free? My dad started hunting 40+ years ago and the only time he has ever concealed his scent was when I sprayed him down the other day to help me hang a stand. He has killed more deer then I can count and seen 10 times more.
I can honestly say had I done nothing for my scent, she would have. I'm convinced of that from 25 years of previoius experiences.
Really??.......I know you are just guessing, but since she watched you climb down and the noise or sight didn't spook her I would say your lack of odor isn't what kept her there.
Oh contrare, I am absolutley thrilled that my scent level was low enough that she didn't wind me prior to that. With her directly down wind, that's mightly close, had this been rifle season and the same circumstances, tag willing, dead deer. I know she hadn't spooked for other reasons, until I physically waved at her, she never once looked up towards me.
Like Greg already said..........if a doe nailed you from 52 yards then those mature bucks you lust after will certainly do so much earlier then that.
You also assume the tree was between us, I never said that. The tree was on my left shoulder, she was directly behind me, not the tree.
You said she was behind you......and when you climbed down you had to "circle" the tree to her side. My assumptions are the result of your explanation
25 years of bowhunting has taught me this, especially prior to any scent knowledge. I will especially say this prior to my Scentlok/Blocker purchases.
I find it very interesting how people find what they are looking for. I am quite certain that in 25 years you have seen plenty of does closer to you then this one that didn't know you were there.........why is this one any more special or informative because now you wear a special suit?? Going by that logic anyone with a ssimilar story that was wearing nothing would prove you don't need any of this stuff then right??
Nothing else going on, simple, deer 50 yards away downwind, I got down.
You are 100% positive that nothing else could have possibly been going on??........no fawns she was keeping an eye on.....no foxes she could smell.....no other animals she was keeping an eye on........no other scents that possibly catching her nose.....food, animals, danger etc.
I'll take all the edge I can get, and I remember reading some of your equipment, you do too.
You would want a camo that makes you invisible and allows you to be lazy, loud and sloppy while hunting and still kill deer with ease?? Not me. I have my limits. If I put on a camo that allowed me to wave at deer as they walked by and they couldn't see me I would not only never wear it again I would petition my state officials to make it illegal. I want to kill a deer based on my skills as a hunter.........not store bought deception. You are right that I buy things to increase my chances of success........but if I don't do my part I am toast.........and that's the way I like it.
True that, I'm 200 yards from the food plot, it's an additive, so is the 400 acres of corn around the spot, the bedding area, the travel routes not to mention this is a natural funnel area. Those 25 years have put me in one of the 3 trees I have around this area. We make our own success, some of making mine is scent elimination and concealment.
My only issue is I believe you put too much emphasis on the wrong ingredients. I think you are probably one heck of a hunter in a darn fine piece of land.........I bet you are better then you think and don't need as many gadgets to help you do better. Give yourself more credit.
I doubt it, but don't want to find out when my buck of a life time is downwind and in eyeshot.
Paranoia
When it comes to whitetails, especially mature animals, buck or doe I would suggest being paranoid.
Why?.......I think you should be confident in your skills instead of being paranoid. Do you have a ton of experience with being defeated by mature bucks face to face?? If not your paranoia is unfounded.
Anyone can kill button bucks and spikes and if that's all your after, ignore my entire thread. You don't need anything in here.
Pretty crappy statement coming from you Rob.........quite frankly I am VERY surprised to see it. I'll wait and give you a chance to clarify before I comment on it because I don't think it means what it reads like.......at least I hope not.
Thanks, I'm here to share as well as learn myself. And if the Bills winning or losing depending on your bet will get you into Enigma, go Bills or not. Rock on.
I don't gamble and the Bills sucked big time........at least the Sabres season started
Losman is just never gonna be as good as they need a QB to be.
Steelers look good
