Congrats, nice bull!!! I did some more testing and the same results happened. I was shooting into a full rut glen del buck when this happened. While these blades are much sharper than the muzzy's of old I decided to try and buy some slick tricks, haven't got them yet , so if anybody's got them yet let me know how you faired. As with any head a good shot will all ways do the job. thanks for the input.