I agree with everybody else that land is a deal Been out 2 times this year had a couple of nice does at 20yd but it was to dark last night i hunt roush lake in huntington and saw a great buck and a couple ofdoes but being public ground they had a lot to roam and they roamed on another trail oh well i was in a nice hiddy hole so ill be back there next week ill just hunt some private ground tonight and this weekend