EKM so true,

In a perfect world without excitement, perfect rest, and loss of oxygen will a hunter make that thread the needle shot? I know the two of us don't see eye to eye on what it calibers it takes to kill elk 100% time. But in respect to this column I would lean towards your bigger bullets. And given some thought on years past on how many clients I've stood behind and watch shoot at game I would honestly have to say they need all the help they can get. Because your comments I have said to hunters. I've actually seen a guy shoot 13 7mm wea. hits on a bull and not one went through the vitals even when we were 30yds away. That was either excitement beyond control or just plain sorry shooting. Hung my head on that one. In the heat of the moment most don't have the calmness to stand and shoot their best shot. And EKM is right you don't aways know where you hit that elk for sure.

Shoot till their dead

For those that don't think they need range time before hunting. KEY WORD lots of ammo. Because that one guy I make all my clients carry at least 20 rds. Sounds crazy huh but how true reality is.