I bought the Red Head 3D suit before I posted .... was just looking for input as to whether anyone used it and had success and found it any better than anything else they use .... i realize that the camo is more for the hunter than the beast ..... I wanted to get the 3D stuff to mask more movement .... breaks up your outline a little more ..... plus .... because its a cover suit rather than insulation a) it allows me more options in clothing under the camo and b) can use it for various types of hunting .... the more important factor to me was to get good cover scent (ie activated carbon or collidal silver) and scent masking base layers. I've watched enough video on these creatures now and realize that even though they have good eyesight (less the colour spectrum) they are constantly smelling their environment ....