Thanks guys, I have a Parker feather mag II and except for the speed, I'm totally satisfied. The Parker is not slow but I would really like less drop at 30 yards.I to like light bows and the patriot seems to be a little heavy for what I need. I also had a MQ1 with the new style riser and limbs. It was the quietest bow I have ever shot and had 0 hand shock but it just didn't work for me. The Parker has a tad of hand shock but just feels right and shoots great. I am going to find a shop and call them. If they have the bows you mentioned, I will drive there and try them out. Thanks again, Don