Well Ole Snuffy stopped by the house this afternoon and talked me into taking him to my honey hole at jacobs creek. The conditions were terriable, as it was very windy and dark. Not just no sun, but dark. well we managed to get 9 commons to run into our arrows. One was a even 14# 2oz and that was the end of my arrow. Will most likely be the last trip there this year, they will just be bigger next year.