Before you start attacking me and comparing me to others (by the way I don't take being compared to Larry a big put down?, although I don't believe I am any were near that good of a hunter) please actually READ my posts, not just the parts you want to.

And don't go putting words in my mouth or making assumptions about me that you have no knowledge of considering you don't even know who I am.

After the last few posts I look for this thread to be locked anyway.

And can I handle a deer suffereing for 1,2,3 or 5 minutes, sure I can considering that is about how long it takes for one to die, irregardless of how many holes you put in it. I don't care if you instantaniously emptied the deer of blood it would still take the same amount of time for it to lose consiousness. When shot in the vitals deer die in the same manor, lack of oxygen to the brain. Either from bleeding out, choking or loss of flow if the heart stops. In some cases they get a shock to the central nervous system that takes them down, but they are still not dead yet.

It doesn't sound pretty, but it is the truth, and I don't kid myself about it. If you want to that's fine. Don't lecture me on ethics. We kill animals that is the bottom line. If you feel the need to make yourself feel better about it or justify it to yourself and others than that is your problem. I have learned to except it and have no regrets.

Paul