I know the discussion is offically over, but I just finished reading the entire post, and all I can do is sit here with my mouth open, in complete and utter shock from what I just saw. One of the most unbelievable comments I saw was something to the effect of - I don't have any scientific proof that it doesn't work but common sense says it doesn't. I dont have proof --- but?

What ever happened to the freedom of each and every American to have the right to decide for themselves if something works or not. I know that long before Bill Jordan came along, a lot of people killed a lot of deer , Big deer , in plad style jackets and wool pants. These days there are tons of camo' clothing companies making a killing, but no one is arguing that one of their patters does not work the way they say. I also know for a fact, that some patterns do not blend in..... they make you look like a big black blob up in a tree. But for some reason, it would seem that someone has a very personal vendetta against someone else.

There was also another statement about ratchet straps. and how the camo ones are 3 dollars higher for half the count. The author goes on to state that - they think we are stupid - or something like that. But he continues on to say we are not, and we are not going to take it anymore. Well sir, I am a hunter, and I am by no means stupid, but to make that purchase would be my decision, not yours, and by the way, I never asked you to fight this fight for me. You see, if they think we are stupid, but you say we are not, then you work to make everyone fall lock-step in with your beliefs, then you must think we are just as stupid as you say they do. You are misguided in your beliefs sir. You cannot have it both ways.

And lastly, why do you care so much about how other people choose to spend their hard earned money. Who made you Secretary of the Treasury? I may not agree with someone buying certain things, that I deem have no value, but it is their money and they are free to spend it how they wish. So please sir, don't take this fight upon yourself on my behalf, If and when I find something I need to go to battle about, rest assured that I am quite capable, and it will most certainly be something of value, not wheather or not someone's camo clothing line does what they say it does.

Remember, if we ( hunters ) are not stupid, then let us decide for ourselves. And if we want to buy it we will, if we do not, we won't.

BTW- I do not own any brand of carbon based ( or other ) scent free clothing. Not because I do not think it works, but rather because I kill deer every year without it. But you sir are free to do as you please, and please respect my, and everyone else's right to do the same.

I really have been enjoying this site for the last two weeks. I have come across some really friendly and helpful people. But that thread was one of the most childish acts I have ever wittnessed in my life...........It just sounds like sour grapes to me....