First of all, thanks for all the input, it's very helpful. I'm leaning towards the camo shadowgrass version of the 870 supermag with a 30 inchbarrel. I keep thinking i'm pidgeon holing myself by getting a 30" and won'tbe able to hunt upland game with it easily. But the shadowgrass only comes in a 30" for the 870 and the dealer told me they aren't making the camo version of the supermag with the 26 or 28 inch anymore. Is 30 just to much for upland, or should i just suck it up, by the 30 inch and then get a shorter barrel for upland/turkey and whatnot? Again, thanks for all the help.