In the last issue of all terrain mag they had a mud tire column and i do not see these swampers anyplace. I have not heard of em here but if you wouldn't mind to post a pic of them up matt i would like to have a boo. The majority of guys in my area are running ITP mudlites and mudbugs. I prefer the mud lites the seem to be more aggressiveand put on 26's 10's on the front 12's on the back of my kodiak. You hammer on it and look back to see ground flying, pretty addicting.