I am so much better with my Hoyt (Not yet hunted with Pheonix) on paper than in a hunting situation. In my backyard at known distances I am deadly, but up in a tree stand with that adrenalin stirring it has gone out the window more times than I like to admit. Still darn near foul myself everytime I see a deer. Gonna range everything this year with my cheap $180 Rangefinder. Wife thinks it was even cheaper. I told her it was one side of a pair of binoculars so they pretty much give them away. Score one for me.>>>>>>>>>>>>Wh ack