SBG I have good luck in staging areas, Where I tend to hunt in the evening's. I stay 10-30 yds in, and off the beaten path.

I have always notice the bigger older bucks hanging back a bit, not going out until dark. I see them on the deer runs not well travled.

In the 90'sI had a honey hole, I sat 20 yds in on this old path. When the field was corn it was awesome, I have seen a pile of bucksand doe's there and killed. We planted CRP in 98 and it has never been the same. We changed the enviorment and the deer changed with it.

It all depends on where you hunt, and what the setup looks like. I talked to a pile of big buck hunters, and there is onemain point they all do. Getting to and from your stand undetected. Noneus know how many deer we scare walking toand from our stands. I love the line, but I am seeing deer. Well seeing deer and seeing mature deer are two different things. I have been out smarted so many times, it is funny.

SBG you are on the right track, inch or two in the right direction and things would be different. Talk with the hunters in your area, the really good ones, see what they are doing. Great example is grunt tubes and rattling, I do not do. In MI we have too many doe's, and too few mature bucks. So competion is not there, so when you rattle the mature buck does not care, plenty of girls for him, no need to go fight. What comes in is the little bucks, because they do not know any better. Since I went to stealth mode I see a alot more mature bucks. I got this tip from a really good bowhunter, he has a book coming out soon. He hunts in MI & Ohio.

Good hunting guys!!!! I guess I will just have to keep watching Desperate HouseWives, oooggggghhhhhh