sj..please don't misunderstand me..I BLEED HONDA RED, just saying though that the tranny has had a few problems (and not related to lack of maintenance) and thats all...I LOVE the rubicons. To answer the original question... HONDA RUBICON over the Suzi hands down.If Honda would just put out a big-bore V twin, IRS with a front diff lock I would buy it. The Rincon is a great trail bike but the 3 speed trans just isnt up to the mud bogs we do so looks like Kawi may be next on the list..