David

I have not seen the problems you are mentioning. I shoot lots of hogs each year, and there is very few animals that have as thick of skin, and I get pass throughs ever time on double lungers with expandibles. That is unless I hit the back shoulder blade, but then agian, I have had my 300 wby stopped by the back shoulder on a hog. And if it stops a 180 grain bullet cruising at 3200 ft/sec, then it is no wonder why it stops an arrow. (I cook my own bullets and cronie them).

Too each his own. What ever works, keep using it. Im just not ready to dam expandibles. I did a lot of that when they firstcame out, then I broke down and tried them.