Lone Wolf,

I value my live >>a lot<<, I don't know why you would say I didn't. That is why the design is >>rock<< solid:

1) 2 sheets of plywood 3/4 thick screwed together with at least 10 screws,rock solid and nailed or screwed into the tree with at least 3" spikes, galvenized.

2) That is why the rope around the tree for each stepis 3/8 poly prop rope, that does not rot, mildew or streach significantly. The role has a maximum load weight of 1050 lbs, there is no man that weighs that.

3) That is why the 4x4 pressure treat block has a 3/4" piece of plywood with a hole thru it taped to the block to keep you from breaking the 4x4 block.

4) That is why I recommend that the steps be placed only 18" apart, so when your cold and stiff you step securely.

5) that is why I recommend you leave an 18" piece of rope hanging down from the step so you can grab ahold and wrap it around your hand to hold on to the tree tight instead of "hugging" a big tree, like some people have to go up with climbing stands.

6) that is why I recommend about 4 foot up in the tree above the Y-boardthat you place another piece of 3/8 rope tied around the tree to use as a hand hold

7) that is why I recommend you nail two spikes into the tree, one for your bow andone for your fanny pack

8) that is why I recommend you bring a commercial seat with you so you can sit comfortably all day

The above logical design was designed for safety and durability and minimize cost, because I love to hunt multiple places. If you can push back with logical reason for the untrustyworthness of these stands please do so, I am willing to listen. Thank you,
Chap Gleason