thats why I said for the most part.. Really speaking honestly, how many hunters do you know that put time into scouting( more than a day) talking with land owners practicing with their gun or bow. The majority on this board probably do these things as our passion brings us here. But thousands of Pa hunters buy a license,the day before they should have their doe tags in, or the day before season starts, buy a box of shells(probably not even the same grain bullet they used last year) and pile up a bunch of clothes and a few cases of beer and head to a buddies camp. Or just drive to a spot where the saw a deer cross the road a month before. Theses are the peole I speak of being lazy. These are the ones who spend 2 maybe 3 days a year hunting and EXPECT a deer for their 20.00 license fee.