Alright, I solved the problem...went out and bought some 2.25" quick spin vanes...fletched up a half dozen with terminator arrows....yes I know...people say this is awful and should not be done...but it shoots great....I also bought 100 blazer vanes on ebay and am going to get some terminators to fletch up with them also....i took the mounting part of the w.b. with the hole that the bolt goes through, cut 1/2" off the front, filed it smooth so no sharp edges...and it pushed the w.b. up to the riser and i have just enough room the way I have the vanes positioned on the arrow and the w.b. now...thanks for all the help everyone!