I value as many opinions as I can get and it does not matter what sharp broadhead you hit them with as long as you hit them right. Like Jay I use the Steelheads. I just wish I knew where he got extra bands for them. I don't think Jay knows it all, but he sure does know alot. Squirrel seems like a bright kid and I am willing to bet there is a ton he could learn from Jay. Just think, Jay has underwear as old as the Squirell is but "probably" not as badly stained. Some guys want to reload ammo to acheive 1" accuracy at 100 yards. I am happy shooting offhand rifle groups of five inches at 100 with factory ammo and have never even shot a deer that far away.Some guys want 350fps out of their bow, but like Smoke I think if I throw a log with a sharp broadhead thru their lungs I win the Game. This is not fighting or arguing, it is just a bit of trying to convince the other guy he is wrong and I for one am just having fun..>>>>>Whack!