well i decided to go out and shoot.First, I busted my nock off of one of my arrows.So I came inside and put a new one on it and went back out. I shot one okay, a little left.I said well lets see how close i could group my three arrows and my next shot, I heard them hit and i was like they must be pretty close and then the next shot came close.I went up to get my arrows and I had robinhooded my first and second arrows.It was at 20 yards. I am not sure if i like this because now im down to 4 good arrows.But that should be enough.I always carry two old "squirrel" arrows for those slow days that just frees up room in my quiver.I will probably have pics tuesday because my card is in my camera and im getting ready to leave and tomm i am going to scout.