James,My point is that on the net,it seems like every rifle shoots 1/2moa any time.Yet few people ever post 1/2 moa groups, and when they do it is usually only one group that very well could be a fluke.I like to be able to actually show what my rifles can do with me shooting them.I also like to see what other rifles can really do instead of just reading about all of the great groups they supposedly shoot.