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Old 08-31-2006 | 06:44 AM
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manuman
 
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Default RE: A hunter's stance on the WHA

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Maybe I shouldn't have lumped you and SB so closely together.

In any case, did you somehow miss my initial post? Did you only skim it, or did you skip it all together and only reply to something someone else posted?

I do know what I'm talking about. Granted, my facts aren't straight from the horse's mouth (Farbman's), but in that case neither are 95% of the people's against the WHA. I do know what I'm talking about, and saying that I don't know the facts is ridiculous.

I wouldn't have made the initial post I did had I not had some form of knowledge on the subject.

My stand isn't inconsistent. It has been the same from the beginning and it hasn't changed in the least. I've opposed the WHA in its entirety since the very first post made about it. Farbman changed the format so that the WHA would remain legal, and yet I still oppose the organization. How is that inconsistent? I've admitted to being close minded on the subject numerous times. Again, how is that inconsistent?
You have hit the nail on the head WH! 95% don't have all the facts, and neither do I! That is exactly why I am attempting to get closer to the situation, so that the objections are founded and based on fact, rather than simply reaction fueled only by emotion. You are not inconsistent in your opposition, but you said yourself that you wanted open debate, but now that I ,and others ,offer a contrasting opinion on how to approach, you are being anything but open . We are on the same page in our opposition, and differ in how we want to deal with this. I am asking for restraint, and control of the emotional side. Have you ever heard of the scripture verse that says to be angry, and sin not? That is what I am talking about. By all means , I am angry, and passionate, but it doesn't acomplish anything to charge in unprepared, guns ablazing( that is a pun before someone takes it literally like the reference to PETA,etc.) I hasve learned , a long time ago, by experience, that before you charge in making complaints, accusations, and pointing fingers, that you need to gather all th efacts before you ever say a word. And once you speak, you need to be able to back it up.I have listened to DF, and I have THEN, voiced my concerns, and why. He told me , in the last call I had with him, that he had never thought about some of the issues that I raised. I let him state his case, and then I deliberately,methodically , line by line, precept upon precept spelled out the reasons why there were flaws in his 'vision', and he admitted as such( onsome issues). There was no compromising in my replies or any hint of backing down. You don't have to be loud and boisterous to get a point across. The truth will speak for itself. I explained to him, that his darting had been an implied message that ,somehow, that it is something to be ashamed of that we kill animals, and that there needs to be an unapologetic educational process to clarify that hunting is legitimate, rather than to attempt to appease with an alternative such as darting. I spoke of the need for ethics, fair chase, etc. as opposed to the competition aspect, and he admitted tha there needed to be a greater emphasis there.
This is simply all I am trying to say. I am not setting myself up as a sole representative for this or any other matter. I added my thoughts on how I have developed my , personal approach to resolving difficult and serious, emotionally charged issues. It isn't something that just popped into my head, but is the result of having run a business for 23 years, raising 3 sons(which Iam still in the process), handling difficult family matters( have you ever had to confront a child molester who had repeatedly been guilty of assaulting your 8 year old neice, counsel with a neice that has 3 kids, yet has abandoned them to feed her drug habit,and then take in her son, and explain to him why his Mom has abandoned him,deal with an alcoholic family member over a several year period,be involved in a 2 1/2 year court battle over a son falsely charged with vehicular manslaughter)--shall I continue? There is always more to an issue than first impressions . You have to do some digging and some fact finding first, the develop your case, and systematically dismantle it with fact. You let your passion drive you to do the hard part. It's easy to just jump right in,but as the saying goes, you need to look before you leap, because you need to know where you are going to land.
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