Just bought the Irish Setter-ShadowTrek w/ 800 gm. Theyjust came out and arevery comfortable. They offerthem w/o insulation if you want and cost only 100 - 110 dollars. I have a pair of Rocky Bear Claws and don't care to use them anymore. Another one you might look at is the Wolverine 12 point's. Good luck finding them local -Icould only get them from Cabelas or Bass Pro Shops.