I was going to tell you that the biggest seller at the archery shop I work at is the Viper but as you can see from the board that is not necessary. The ease of the sit down climber is the big sell, the all day, and i mean ALL DAY, comfort of the treestane is the added bonus. ALong with the simple and strong design of these climbers. They stick to the tree like velcro. By the way I have the Goliath. IT is two for two, I doe and one 8 point. Both with the bow. The bar is really not an issue as far as being in the way for shooting. Obvioosly you can not shoot straight down in the stand while sitting. but it is sweet.

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