If I can jump in here and make a quick observation and opinion - ..... the best post on here was the first one made by 9point. He hit the nail on the head. Lets consider 2 states here, Indiana and Missouri. Indiana is between 2 great whitetail states- Illinois and Ohio. Missouri is surrounded by Illinois, Iowa and Kansas which are probably the top3 states for big whitetails. Why then are Indiana and Missouri not able to match the buck quality of their neighbors?????? Look at the firearms season of Indiana and Missouri compared to the others. They simply have too many days of gun hunting during November.It is that simple. The dumbest deer in the woods is a yearling buck and during November he is walking around like a horny 19 year old kid with his head in the clouds. They basically commit suicide by walking into hunters, many of whom would not kill a buck if the season were in Decemberwhen these youngsters will bespending more time bedded than walking around.

I hope I didnt offend anyone but that is the truth.Indiana and Missouri both produce some great bucks but not near as many as they could by changing the timing of their gun seasons a little. I also realize the politics involved with getting these changes made and how tough it is. I guess that is why I share my East Central Illinois woods with so many Hoosier hunters. (and Illinois DNR is probably worse than Indianas!) Good luck to all this season.