I used Rem Core Lokts for years. They just punched holes. I now reload and use Hornady 150 or 180 gr RN's.All my shots are under 100 yds here in Maine.This years deer didn't move another step. No problem. Good performance.I stopped using Rem CL's after center punching a deer 20 yrs ago and he went over 150 yds. It just zipped in and out,in at .308 and out at .308.No shock,no knock down, he just ran out of blood on the run!