I got a half dozen and 4 of them shoot pretty well. One is a little off @30 yards 1 1/2" to 2" from the group, and another one shoots 3-4" high left @ that range, even with field tips. I never tried ICS hunters, but I like my Carbon Express arrows much better than the Blackhawks. I believe Jeff B. speaks highly of Beman ICS, and he has shot, measured and analyzed many different arrows far beyond what most shooters do.

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