Thanks fellas.If I'm not mistaken the diamond victory has the solataire cam which is similar to the infinity cam on the patriot.I may look at the cobra model.I had some issues with contact using the NAP on a darton maverick.So I'm a little leary to try it on the Pat.

Atlas I am shooting a bisquit now.But, even with my St Epic black arrows it is making a little more noise than I am comfortable with for our close range string jumpy whitetails.Plus,I'm just not shooting as good asI have in the pastat longer ranges with broadheads.I've tried all the usual tricks to quiet the WB down.But it's still making a little too much noise to my liking.


CB